Comments for Village Tribune http://www.villagetribune.org.uk Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:47:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 Comment on The Tenants of Walderam Hall By Avril Lumley Prior by S Hill http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/the-tenants-of-walderam-hall-by-avril-lumley-prior/comment-page-1#comment-486 S Hill Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:03:23 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1820#comment-486 We found an old book in Stamford Library about local walks, in the reference section. It mentioned Walderham Hall in one of the walks. It contained a picture of the inside, which was unusual in that it had two staircases leading up each side of what I think was the kitchen. The book also mentioned the stones, so it may be possible to find out more about them. I apologise for some of the dates in my previous comments. It looks as though Henry Smith married when he was three! My father and I are working together and between us we have made an error. Apologies. We found an old book in Stamford Library about local walks, in the reference section. It mentioned Walderham Hall in one of the walks. It contained a picture of the inside, which was unusual in that it had two staircases leading up each side of what I think was the kitchen. The book also mentioned the stones, so it may be possible to find out more about them.
I apologise for some of the dates in my previous comments. It looks as though Henry Smith married when he was three! My father and I are working together and between us we have made an error. Apologies.

]]> Comment on The Tenants of Walderam Hall By Avril Lumley Prior by Avril Lumley Prior http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/the-tenants-of-walderam-hall-by-avril-lumley-prior/comment-page-1#comment-481 Avril Lumley Prior Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:45:27 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1820#comment-481 Dear Readers Thank you very much indeed for all your useful information. It has helped to fill in some of the gaps in the history of this fascinating building. At present, I am researching the history of the site from the Neolithic period until the Norman Conquest with publication in mind. Sid, I am sure you are that you are correct in thinking that the stones you found were from the hall. There is no evidence that the site was a cemetery. However, there was a ribbon of Bronze Age barrows nearby, so you were thinking along the right lines! Best wishes Dr Avril Lumley Prior Dear Readers
Thank you very much indeed for all your useful information. It has helped to fill in some of the gaps in the history of this fascinating building. At present, I am researching the history of the site from the Neolithic period until the Norman Conquest with publication in mind.

Sid, I am sure you are that you are correct in thinking that the stones you found were from the hall. There is no evidence that the site was a cemetery. However, there was a ribbon of Bronze Age barrows nearby, so you were thinking along the right lines!

Best wishes

Dr Avril Lumley Prior

]]> Comment on The Tenants of Walderam Hall By Avril Lumley Prior by Keith Browning http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/the-tenants-of-walderam-hall-by-avril-lumley-prior/comment-page-1#comment-479 Keith Browning Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:57:59 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1820#comment-479 A desendant of mine in the 1841 census David Browning his given address was Waldram Hall ocupation given as Farmer. A desendant of mine in the 1841 census David Browning his given address was Waldram Hall ocupation given as Farmer.

]]> Comment on Crown Planning Application received by Louise Halifax http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/village-news/glinton/crown-planning-application-received/comment-page-1#comment-478 Louise Halifax Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:12:59 +0000 http://www.ds-server6.co.uk/?p=140#comment-478 I would love to open this as a pub/restuarant, I keep looking at it, it is a great building, such a shame to knock it down!!! or a club for children to teenagers in the area, as there is a huge lack of things for young people to do in holidays, so some sort of youth club etc would be great also. I would love to open this as a pub/restuarant, I keep looking at it, it is a great building, such a shame to knock it down!!! or a club for children to teenagers in the area, as there is a huge lack of things for young people to do in holidays, so some sort of youth club etc would be great also.

]]> Comment on The Tenants of Walderam Hall By Avril Lumley Prior by S Hill http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/the-tenants-of-walderam-hall-by-avril-lumley-prior/comment-page-1#comment-477 S Hill Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:58:55 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1820#comment-477 We were most interested to hear the early history of Walderham Hall and would like to add the details of our family. My mothers' family were tenants of Walderham Hall between, circa 1727 and 1892. The family name was Smith and they were farmers. Henry Smith was the first family member to occupy the Hall and he acquired a copyhold tenancy (a tenancy giving Manorial special conditions including the rights to hold land) at the Hall. He married Sarah ? and their offspring was another Henry born in 1750 at the Hall, who inherited when his father died. This Henry married Elizabeth White in 1753 and they had seven children, the senior being Philip Smith. Henry owned several properties in and around Maxey, some copyhold and some freehold. An important one was in South Street, Crowland, Lincolnshire held in the copyhold of the Manor of Crowland. This he mortgaged for the sum of £400 - a considerable sum in those days. Philip duly inherited when his father died and was instructed in his fathers will to redeem the £400 mortgage and to repay various other debts. Philip never married but he had three children by his housekeeper Hannah Wass. He had the children baptised at Peakirk, in his name, shortly before he died in 1853. His eldest son James Valentine Smith born at the Hall in 1826 inherited and married Elizabeth Percival, giving birth to another Valentine Smith who was my great grandfather. He married Caroline Tomlin when he inherited and they had three girls. The middle child, Dorothy Mary (later became Barr - do get in touch please if you are related in any way) was my grandmother. She was not born at the Hall because that was the time of the great exodus from the land and James Valentine had moved the family to London. The eldest daughter Elizabeth was born at the Hall and stayed with her grandmother Eliza until Eliza died as head of the household. It was unusual for the widow of the head of the household (James Valentine) to be allowed to continue in occupation at the Hall but this was a condition of the copyhold tenancy. With the death of Eliza the family's tenancy of the Hall ceased in about 1892. Over the years the family intermarried with many of the local people and I do have some details of the connections. As we have previously mentioned any descendants of Dorothy Barr (nee Smith) we would be most interested to hear from. We were most interested to hear the early history of Walderham Hall and would like to add the details of our family.
My mothers’ family were tenants of Walderham Hall between, circa 1727 and 1892. The family name was Smith and they were farmers. Henry Smith was the first family member to occupy the Hall and he acquired a copyhold tenancy (a tenancy giving Manorial special conditions including the rights to hold land) at the Hall. He married Sarah ? and their offspring was another Henry born in 1750 at the Hall, who inherited when his father died.
This Henry married Elizabeth White in 1753 and they had seven children, the senior being Philip Smith.
Henry owned several properties in and around Maxey, some copyhold and some freehold. An important one was in South Street, Crowland, Lincolnshire held in the copyhold of the Manor of Crowland. This he mortgaged for the sum of £400 - a considerable sum in those days.
Philip duly inherited when his father died and was instructed in his fathers will to redeem the £400 mortgage and to repay various other debts.
Philip never married but he had three children by his housekeeper Hannah Wass. He had the children baptised at Peakirk, in his name, shortly before he died in 1853. His eldest son James Valentine Smith born at the Hall in 1826 inherited and married Elizabeth Percival, giving birth to another Valentine Smith who was my great grandfather. He married Caroline Tomlin when he inherited and they had three girls. The middle child, Dorothy Mary (later became Barr - do get in touch please if you are related in any way) was my grandmother. She was not born at the Hall because that was the time of the great exodus from the land and James Valentine had moved the family to London.
The eldest daughter Elizabeth was born at the Hall and stayed with her grandmother Eliza until Eliza died as head of the household. It was unusual for the widow of the head of the household (James Valentine) to be allowed to continue in occupation at the Hall but this was a condition of the copyhold tenancy. With the death of Eliza the family’s tenancy of the Hall ceased in about 1892.
Over the years the family intermarried with many of the local people and I do have some details of the connections. As we have previously mentioned any descendants of Dorothy Barr (nee Smith) we would be most interested to hear from.

]]> Comment on The Tenants of Walderam Hall By Avril Lumley Prior by Sid Bates http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/the-tenants-of-walderam-hall-by-avril-lumley-prior/comment-page-1#comment-394 Sid Bates Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:40:23 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1820#comment-394 I was interested to read the history of Walderham Hall. As a boy I well remember going swimming in the Welland at the rear of the hall. I wonder if you have any knowledge of several stones in the field between the new cut and the Folly river. During my growing up years,1930s/1940s,it was generally thought that the stones were a burial ground,looking back they could well have been the remains of some building. Maybe you might be able to throw some light on their history. I was interested to read the history of Walderham Hall. As a boy I well remember going swimming in the Welland at the rear of the hall.
I wonder if you have any knowledge of several stones in the field between the new cut and the Folly river. During my growing up years,1930s/1940s,it was generally thought that the stones were a burial ground,looking back they could well have been the remains of some building.
Maybe you might be able to throw some light on their history.

]]> Comment on Cycle Frustration by Simon Potter http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/village-news/glinton/cycle-frustration/comment-page-1#comment-386 Simon Potter Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:39:50 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1137#comment-386 CA Wootton writes: "I accept it is impossible to put cyclists onto the road with the amount of motor traffic at that time." Why? Cycling on the footpath is illegal and the fact the road is busy should not be an excuse the break the law. You wouldn't put up with cars or motorbikes on a pavement just because the road is busy so why accept cyclists, especially those who are determined to ride at full speed with no consideration for pedestrians? CA Wootton writes: “I accept it is impossible to put cyclists onto the road with the amount of motor traffic at that time.”
Why?
Cycling on the footpath is illegal and the fact the road is busy should not be an excuse the break the law. You wouldn’t put up with cars or motorbikes on a pavement just because the road is busy so why accept cyclists, especially those who are determined to ride at full speed with no consideration for pedestrians?

]]> Comment on Cycle Frustration by local resident http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/village-news/glinton/cycle-frustration/comment-page-1#comment-368 local resident Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:55:32 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1137#comment-368 I totally agree with C.A.Wootton that alternative access for school cyclists should be provided, especially if it means that I will be able to walk up and down Foxcovert Road again at whatever time I please. I do not have a car and travel around frequently on foot. I have had some mild verbal abuse in the past from AMVC pupils using Foxcovert Road in the mornings, but about 3 years ago a youth, who was in the company of a group of other AMVC cyclists deliberately tried to run me down with his bicycle while I was walking one morning on that road. I had to jump out of the way, as the demonic grin on his face showed me he clearly meant business. There are no pavements on Foxcovert Road, of course and one is at the mercy of traffic generally in that location. And a woman can feel quite vulnerable there as it is sparsely populated. I was so shaken by this incident that I have altered my entire working day so that I do not use Foxcovert Road when the children are going to or from school. This has restricted my life considerably and I have lost work as a result. I can't wait for the school holidays when I can come and go as I please. That an adult could feel so intimidated by children could be considered feeble, but some of them do seem to have carte blanche these days to behave as they wish, regardless of the effect it may have on others. Reading the various comments and letters in the Tribune this year, I am relieved to see that I am not alone in being concerned about this problem. I totally agree with C.A.Wootton that alternative access for school cyclists should be provided, especially if it means that I will be able to walk up and down Foxcovert Road again at whatever time I please. I do not have a car and travel around frequently on foot. I have had some mild verbal abuse in the past from AMVC pupils using Foxcovert Road in the mornings, but about 3 years ago a youth, who was in the company of a group of other AMVC cyclists deliberately tried to run me down with his bicycle while I was walking one morning on that road. I had to jump out of the way, as the demonic grin on his face showed me he clearly meant business. There are no pavements on Foxcovert Road, of course and one is at the mercy of traffic generally in that location. And a woman can feel quite vulnerable there as it is sparsely populated.
I was so shaken by this incident that I have altered my entire working day so that I do not use Foxcovert Road when the children are going to or from school. This has restricted my life considerably and I have lost work as a result. I can’t wait for the school holidays when I can come and go as I please. That an adult could feel so intimidated by children could be considered feeble, but some of them do seem to have carte blanche these days to behave as they wish, regardless of the effect it may have on others. Reading the various comments and letters in the Tribune this year, I am relieved to see that I am not alone in being concerned about this problem.

]]> Comment on Where have all Helpston’s pubs gone? by Shirley Martin http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/where-have-all-helpstons-pubs-gone/comment-page-1#comment-348 Shirley Martin Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:40:21 +0000 http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/?p=1325#comment-348 I was very interested in your article about the pubs of Helpston and as my father, Reginald Martin, was born at The Railway Hotel and then lived at the Royal Oak Inn, Helpston, I thought you might like some additional information. It is also by way of a correction as Mr. Cocks says he brought the house from Phoebe Sanderson but it was in fact from my grandmother, Alice Maud Martin. Mark Sanderson (and his wife Phoebe) moved to The Railway Hotel, Helpston in 1908. The spirits register notes he received spirits from G. & H.R. Hunt of Stamford. He died in 1914, age 73, and after his death his wife, Phoebe Sanderson, took over the licence of the Royal Oak Inn, Helpston, in 1916. [She took over from Mr. and Mrs. William Frisby]. Phoebe was still the landlady of The Royal Oak Inn in 1927 but it finally closed in September 1929. The brewery then sold the house to Phoebe. It evidently used to be crowded at Helpston feast time but before it closed it was down to only about 2 - 3 people coming in during the evening. Phoebe died at Royal Oak Cottage, Helpston, on 1.3.1946, age 99 years. Phoebe’s daughter, Alice Maud Sanderson had married Charles Martin in 1912 at Helpston and they had lived at The Railway Hotel with her parents, and then moved to the Royal Oak Inn with her mother after Mark died. Charles and Alice Maud Martin had five children, the first two being born at The Railway Hotel and the other three at The Royal Oak Inn. After the Royal Oak Inn closed as a pub the whole family continued to live there. Charles Martin died in 1948 and his wife continued to live there with their daughter, Violet. When Violet died in 1967, Alice Maud Martin felt that she could no longer cope with living there on her own and the house was sold to Mr. Cocks. The old photograph of the Railway Hotel mentioned by Jula Shonfeld in your article is of Phoebe (my g. grandmother) and her daughter Alice Maud Sanderson (my grandmother) standing in the doorway of the Hotel (unfortunately it was given away at the time of the sale of Royal Oak Cottage without being offered to any of the other relatives!!). I was very interested in your article about the pubs of Helpston and as my father, Reginald Martin, was born at The Railway Hotel and then lived at the Royal Oak Inn, Helpston, I thought you might like some additional information. It is also by way of a correction as Mr. Cocks says he brought the house from Phoebe Sanderson but it was in fact from my grandmother, Alice Maud Martin.

Mark Sanderson (and his wife Phoebe) moved to The Railway Hotel, Helpston in 1908. The spirits register notes he received spirits from G. & H.R. Hunt of Stamford. He died in 1914, age 73, and after his death his wife, Phoebe Sanderson, took over the licence of the Royal Oak Inn, Helpston, in 1916. [She took over from Mr. and Mrs. William Frisby]. Phoebe was still the landlady of The Royal Oak Inn in 1927 but it finally closed in September 1929. The brewery then sold the house to Phoebe. It evidently used to be crowded at Helpston feast time but before it closed it was down to only about 2 - 3 people coming in during the evening. Phoebe died at Royal Oak Cottage, Helpston, on 1.3.1946, age 99 years.

Phoebe’s daughter, Alice Maud Sanderson had married Charles Martin in 1912 at Helpston and they had lived at The Railway Hotel with her parents, and then moved to the Royal Oak Inn with her mother after Mark died. Charles and Alice Maud Martin had five children, the first two being born at The Railway Hotel and the other three at The Royal Oak Inn. After the Royal Oak Inn closed as a pub the whole family continued to live there. Charles Martin died in 1948 and his wife continued to live there with their daughter, Violet. When Violet died in 1967, Alice Maud Martin felt that she could no longer cope with living there on her own and the house was sold to Mr. Cocks.

The old photograph of the Railway Hotel mentioned by Jula Shonfeld in your article is of Phoebe (my g. grandmother) and her daughter Alice Maud Sanderson (my grandmother) standing in the doorway of the Hotel (unfortunately it was given away at the time of the sale of Royal Oak Cottage without being offered to any of the other relatives!!).

]]> Comment on Woodcroft Castle by Avril Lumley Prior http://www.villagetribune.org.uk/local-history/woodcroft-castle/comment-page-1#comment-345 Avril Lumley Prior Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:51:22 +0000 http://www.ds-server6.co.uk/?p=357#comment-345 Hello Andy We're pleased that our article on 'Toffee' Neaverson has helped to reunite you with family members. I am no relation but Freda Neaverson lives opposite to my husband and Arthur rang the church bells at our wedding in Peakirk. Yes, Greg and I would be delighted if we could use your photographs, especially of the Grotto and the man himself. Of couse, you will receive acknowledgements in botyh the caprion and at the front the book. Best wishes Avril Lumley Prior Hello Andy

We’re pleased that our article on ‘Toffee’ Neaverson has helped to reunite you with family members. I am no relation but Freda Neaverson lives opposite to my husband and Arthur rang the church bells at our wedding in Peakirk.

Yes, Greg and I would be delighted if we could use your photographs, especially of the Grotto and the man himself. Of couse, you will receive acknowledgements in botyh the caprion and at the front the book.

Best wishes

Avril Lumley Prior

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